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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:31 pm 
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So true... so true!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:41 am 
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Yes, it is the people.

I really can't quite believe or understand how someone with a little authority can change the perception of others so easily.

It kind of pulls the rug out from under your feet and leaves you gasping in disbelief.

No wonder so many people get away with so much.

If you have enough people telling others that this and that doesn't exist or this or that is not possible and so on and follow it up with a suggestion that those who do view such things as possible are delusional it is amazing how quickly people fall into line.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:55 am 
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david barclay wrote:
Yes, it is the people.

I really can't quite believe or understand how someone with a little authority can change the perception of others so easily.

It kind of pulls the rug out from under your feet and leaves you gasping in disbelief.

No wonder so many people get away with so much.

If you have enough people telling others that this and that doesn't exist or this or that is not possible and so on and follow it up with a suggestion that those who do view such things as possible are delusional it is amazing how quickly people fall into line.
There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world .And over 2 billion Christians. And then all the other small groups.It does take time but those billions of Christians took 2000 years or so to get to 2 billion.Not to take anything away from christanity or any other faith. I have my own belief system.But someone is believing allot of stories and have many that follow.And if you pick one of the 2 top faiths in the world.Or the many others .There are allot of people wrong.


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:05 am 
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Theres a good quote here on cynicism vs scepticism:
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"I propose that true skepticism is called for today: neither the gullible acceptance of true belief nor the closed-minded rejection of the scoffer masquerading as the skeptic.
One should be skeptical of both the believers and the scoffers. The negative claims of pseudo-skeptics who offer facile explanations must themselves be subject to criticism. If a competent witness reports having seen something tens of degrees of arc in size (as happens) and the scoffer -- who of course was not there -- offers Venus or a high altitude weather balloon as an explanation, the requirement of extraordinary proof for an extraordinary claim falls on the proffered negative claim as well. That kind of approach is also pseudo-science. Moreover just being a scientist confers neither necessary expertise nor sufficient knowledge.
Any scientist who has not read a few serious books and articles presenting actual UFO evidence should out of intellectual honesty refrain from making scientific pronouncements. To look at the evidence and go away unconvinced is one thing. To not look at the evidence and be convinced against it nonetheless is another. That is not science."
Bernard Haisch, astrophysicist.

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:35 am 
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GREAT post, I love that.

So very, very true.

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:25 am 
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I find it both disturbing and disheartening to find so much debunking on the web.

I guess the idea of alien folks from other parts of the universe is not something many people want to consider possible...they seem to have enough trouble dealing with the neighbors down the street and their workmates at their place of employment.

Something far beyond what we are accustom is a fearful consideration to many and they defend their position by debunking that which they fear most.

If we have this much trouble with the integration of different colored folks I can only imagine the hysteria aliens would cause.

But at the same time where does this leave those who have encountered ET?

They are described as people with vivid imaginations and or delusional.

But what else is new.....is there anything everyone would or could agree on?


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:32 pm 
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Timbit wrote:
GREAT post, I love that.

So very, very true.

Tim
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:14 pm 
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A skeptic some say, is someone looking to be convinced and who wants to be convinced. But wait a second, the skeptics are skeptical to start with, which makes them bias before we have even begun our search.

So how do you convince someone who wants to be skeptical? You cannot.

But then again that is part of the plan, to make the people who have evidence and those who believe look like a bunch of crazies who aren't worth giving a second thought to.

I don't like the term skeptic because it's misleading. A skeptic in my opininon, at least the vast majority of skeptics, are no different than debunkers. It just so happens that debunkers are a bit more vocal, but the skeptics are often of the same viewpoints.

It's like Michael Shermer, leader of the skeptic warriors. He says that anyone who thinks 9/11 was an inside job is no different than anyone who thinks the holocaust was a hoax. Well...that's one way to scare a lot of people away from the truth.

Of course, they are two completely different subjects. So it would seem Shermer has an agenda to suit, mainly his bank balance, if not something more sinister.

The skeptic culture has been marketed as intellectual, fashionable and cool. Plus, it makes a lot of money, lots of cash to be earned calling valid people with amazing stories liars. Oh yes.

So actually, there's very little difference between a skeptic and a debunker. Both are bias from the start and most have some form of agenda to stick to, be that anything from money all the way to global control.


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Skeptics are skeptical of just about everything, from the security of paypal to ET and beyond.

Meanwhile the main stream media reports the US economy is recovering and inflation is no where to be found and the skeptic believes this story simply because it was reported by the main stream media to be true. But where is the proof? There is no proof to prove this alleged situation to be anywhere close to the truth.

And those who do insist on reporting the truth and asking hard questions are suggested to be a threat to national security...such as some of the opinions expressed on Fox news.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:03 am 
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That's a good point, David.

Why is it that the skeptics believe any old rubbish when it comes from an official figure, but they won't believe the most basic of truths when it comes from a non-official figue?

Skepticism is profitable, of course it is, because it has been engineered to be. That way it keeps people in the dark, but such a fact would suggest that many skeptics are actually in disguise. What about the so called skeptics who are freemasons?

Skepticism is a big plus for the bad guys, so I'm finding it hard to believe that people like Dawkins, Shermer, Randi, etc, aren't more involved in the agenda than we think they are. Dawkins is most definitely involved, he is largely responsible for dehumanizing and degrading the population.

Just actually how involved these guys are, remains to be seen....but I suggest they are most definitely involved.


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