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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:13 am 
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Bebop................yes there are physical dimensions, 4 or them, but they are not linear.

The problem with the linear concept is that it attempts to define universe in relation to static terms. It is presently assumed that a one meter rule is the same length regardless of where you are, in terms of far and near, which makes us believe we can measure the distance from here to the edge of universe with a one meter ruler.

From this we further get the idea that the past is out there for all to see.

If we carry on like this we are never going to get anywhere other than where we are, because we cannot at the present time colonize any other planet in the universe. We simply don't know what we are doing or how to get on track, because we have convinced ourselves that we already know.

So why are we still using rockets?

Its a huge subject, but it has to be addressed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:27 am 
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Timbit,

We see both past and future, not just past. You are actually looking at the future of some stars and planets and the past of other stars and planets. But you see them all at the same time. Your vision has nothing to do with light entering your eye, as your eye is a sensor, a field frequency sensor. Your eye distinguishes field frequency in the form of color spectra.

Sight is a sensory response, just like all your senses. Remembering is a sensory response to memory, its a field function just like sight.

The speed of light has nothing to do with it, you see far and near simultaneously. Just as you remember simultaneously. Otherwise it would take longer to remember some things than others depending on how recent the information was known to you.

Both past and future are real, not imaginary..........they exist just as the present exists, but you can't get from here to there, in terms of past and future, by any linear means.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:26 pm 
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David, are you aware of the Montauk Boys?The "chair",the whole time travel projec t told about by Al Beilik and others...Started in philadelphia, and then moved to Houston?They were using psychics and enhancing their powers of mind with electronic means, then sticking them in this "chair"where they controlled the focus and scope of the time jumps....They also (according to testimony)could create from pure thought , anything material they could imagine properly....(the rumoured pallet of gold bars etc)
Its a cpmlicated story, and convoluted so bad it would break a snakes back to crawl up it,but i wonder if there is some truth to it...?
The idea that time is like a tree and the various branches are in existance (representing cause and effects)simultaneously past present and future(likke looking sideways down the stack of images in a clothing store mirror....)and we can slip through the cracks to access any one of the alternates is fascinating, but kinda science fiction dont you think?perhaps theres a way to switch to other times,but it sounds pretty wierd the way they explain it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:12 pm 
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Berg. That is pretty much what Thelina said they were able to do. The could every alternitive both past and future.???? The agrument still stands, either there is only the NOW or there is past, present and future. I strongly believe that a gifted person cna see the past and future however which one of either of them?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:16 pm 
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tHE WHOLE DARN THING IS FRAUGHT WITH PARADOX EVERY WAY YOU EXAMINE TIME...AND THE RAMIFICATIONS OF SUCH THOUGHTS....
I FOR ONE WELCOME SOME DISCUSSION ON THIS SUBJECT, AND NOT TO HIGHJACK THIS THREAD, WOULDNT MIND SEEING SOME SEPARATE THOGHTS IN ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT SUCH SPECULATIONS...
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