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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 4:48 pm 
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The art of remote viewing is still largely a mystery to me. However the CIA must have been on to something ...
What i am wondering is if the faculty is affected by time.
Ie is the remote viewer capable to see into the future or past as well?
If so, then if there are any voewers out there would you please check out around the 25th of may and see if that piece of space junk is going to hit us.
Does anyone have a book to recommend on how to remote view?
Can it be taught by hypnotism?Any ideas?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:58 pm 
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the book is called 'worker in the light-unlock your 5 senses' it's written by William Birnes. s.l.n.


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Amazon.com used to have VHS and DVDs (sets by different remote viewers) for sale. If you go to their site, you might find something you're looking for. I bought a complete set of VHS tapes 3 years ago; haven't even had the time to open the set.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:34 am 
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hello,
are you interested in participation to a remote viewing group?
Check out the above post......
Meanwhile,remote viewing in time IS entirely possible and has been accompllished by CIA
and other intelligence services....
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:51 pm 
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May i humbly present some scientific thought on the subject?
here something i found today...
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:41 pm 
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I copied the text here so the apple users can read it. Hey Bert try not to post HTML attachments. There is a comment form in the attachment and it cannot work like this. Just post the URL of the article.
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Many Scientists are Convinced that Man Can See the Future

By DR DANNY PENMAN

PROFESSOR Dick Bierman sits hunched over his computer in a darkened room. The gentle whirring of machinery can be heard faintly in the background. He smiles and presses a grubby-looking red button. In the next room, a patient slips slowly inside a hospital brain scanner. If it wasn't for the strange smiles and grimaces that flicker across the woman's face, you could be forgiven for thinking this was just a normal health check.

But this scanner is engaged in one of the most profound paranormal experiments of all time, one that may well prove whether or not it is possible to predict the future.

For the results - released exclusively to the Daily Mail - suggest that ordinary people really do have a sixth sense that can help them 'see' the future.

Such amazing studies - if verified - might help explain the predictive powers of mediums and a range of other psychic phenomena such Extra Sensory Perception, dEj vu and clairvoyance. On a more mundane level, it may account for 'gut feelings' and instinct.

The man behind the experiments is certainly convinced. 'We're satisfied that people can sense the future before it happens,' says Professor Bierman, a psychologist at the University of Amsterdam. 'We'd now like to move on and see what kind of person is particularly good at it.' And Bierman is not alone: his findings mirror the data gathered by other scientists and paranormal researchers both here and abroad.

Professor Brian Josephson, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist from Cambridge University, says: 'So far, the evidence seems compelling. What seems to be happening is that information is coming from the future.

'In fact, it's not clear in physics why you can't see the future. In physics, you certainly cannot completely rule out this effect.' Virtually all the great scientific formulae which explain how the world works allow information to flow backwards and forwards through time - they can work either way, regardless.

SHORTLY after 9/11, strange stories began circulating about the lucky few who had escaped the outrage. It transpired that many of the survivors had changed their plans at the last minute after vague feelings of unease.

It was a subtle, gnawing feeling that 'something' was not right. Nobody vocalised it but shortly before the attacks, people started altering their plans out of an unspoken instinct.

One woman suffered crippling stomach pain while queuing for one of the ill-fated planes which flew into the World Trade Center. She made her way to the lavatory only to recover spontaneously. She missed her flight but survived the day. Amid the collective outpouring of grief and horror it was easy to overlook such stories or write them off as coincidences. But in fact, these kind of stories point to an interesting and deeper truth for those willing to look.

If, for example, fewer people decided to fly on aircraft that subsequently crashed, then that would suggest a subconscious ability to divine the future.

Well, strange as it seems, that's just what happens.

THE aircraft which flew into the Twin Towers on 9/11 were unusually empty.

All the hijacked planes were carrying only half the usual number of passengers. Perhaps one unusually empty plane could be explained away, but all four?

And it wasn't just on 9/11 that people subconsciously seemed to avoid disaster. The scientist Ed Cox found that trains 'destined' to crash carried far fewer people than they did normally.

Dr Jessica Utts, a statistician at the University of California, found exactly the same bizarre effect.

If it was possible to divine the future, you might expect those at the sharp end, such as pilots, to have the most finely tuned instincts of all. And again, that's just what you see.

When the Air France Concorde crashed in 2000, it wasn't long before the colleagues of those killed in the crash spoke about a sense of foreboding that had gripped the crew and flight engineers before the accident.

Speaking anonymously to the French newspaper Le Parisien, one spoke of a 'morbid expectation of an accident'.

'I had this sense that we were going to bump into the scenery,' he said.

'The atmosphere on the Concorde team for the last few months, if one has the guts to admit it, had been one of morbid expectation of an accident.

It was as if I was waiting for something to happen.' All of these stories suggest that we can pick up premonitions of events that are yet to be.

Although these premonitions are not in glorious Technicolor, they are often emotionally powerful enough for us to act upon them.

In technical parlance it is known as 'presentiment' because emotional feelings are being received from the future, not hard facts or information.

The military has long been fascinated by such phenomena. For many years the U.S. military (and latterly the CIA) funded a secretive programme known as Stargate, which set out to investigate premonitions and the ability of mediums to predict the future.

Dr Dean Radin worked on the Stargate programme and became fascinated by the ability of 'lucky' soldiers to forecast the future.

These are the ones who survived battles against seemingly impossible odds.

Radin became convinced that thoughts and feelings - and occasionally-actual glimpses of the future - could flow backwards in time to guide soldiers. It helped them make lifesaving decisions, often on the basis of a hunch.

He devised an experiment to test these ideas. He hooked up volunteers to a modified lie detector, which measured an electrical current across the surface of the skin.

This current changes when a person reacts to an event such as seeing an extremely violent picture or video. It's the electrical equivalent of a wince. Radin showed sexually explicit, violent or soothing images to volunteers in a random sequence determined by computer.

And he soon discovered that people began reacting to the pictures before they saw them. It was unmistakable.

They began to 'wince' a few seconds before they actually saw the image.

And it happened time and time again, way beyond what chance alone would allow.

So impressive were Radin's results that Dr Kary Mullis, a Nobel Prizewinning chemist, took an interest.

He was hooked up to Radin's machine and shown the emotionally charged images.

'It's spooky,' he says 'I could see about three seconds into the future.

You shouldn't be able to do that.' OTHER researchers from around the world, from Edinburgh University to Cornell in the U.S., rushed to duplicate Radin's experiment and improve on it. And they got similar results.

It was soon discovered that gamblers began reacting subconsciously shortly before they won or lost. The same effect was seen in those terrified of animals, moments before they were shown the creatures. The odds against all of these trials being wrong are literally millions to one against.

Professor Dick Bierman decided to take this work even further. He is a psychologist who has become convinced that time as we understand it is an illusion. He could see no reason why people could not see into the future just as easily as we dip into memories of our past.

He's in good company. Einstein described the distinction between the past, present and future as 'a stubbornly persistent illusion'.

To prove Einstein's point, Bierman looked inside the brains of volunteers using a hospital MRI scanner while he repeated Dr Radin's experiments. These scanners show which parts of the brain are active when we do certain tasks or experience specific emotions.

Although extremely complex, and with each analysis taking weeks of computing time, he has run the experiments twice involving more than 20 volunteers.

And the results suggest quite clearly that seemingly ordinary people are capable of sensing the future on a fairly consistent basis.

Bierman emphasises that people are receiving feelings from the future rather than specific 'visions'.

It's clear, though, that if ordinary people can receive feelings from the future then perhaps the especially gifted may receive visions of things yet to be.

It's also clear that many paranormal phenomena such as ESP and clairvoyance could have their roots in presentiment.

After all, if you can see a few seconds into the future, why not a few days or even years? And surely if you could look through time, why not across great distances?It's a concept that ties the mind in knots, unless you're a physicist.

'I believe that we can "sense" the future,' says the Nobel Prizewinning physicist Brian Josephson.

'We just haven't yet established the mechanism allowing it to happen.

'People have had so called " paranormal" or "transcendental" experiences along these lines. Bierman's work is another piece of the jigsaw.

The fact that we don't understand something does not mean that it doesn't happen.' If we are all regularly sensing the future or occasionally receiving glimpses of it, as some mediums claim to do, then doesn't that mean we can change the future and render the 'prediction' obsolete?

Or perhaps we were meant to receive the premonition and act upon it? Such paradoxes could go on for ever, providing a rich seam of material for films such as Minority Report - based on a short story of the same name - in which a special police department is able to foresee and prevent crimes before they have even taken place.

COULD such science fiction have a grain of truth in it after all? The emerging view, Bierman explains, is that 'the future has implications for the past'.

'This phenomena allows you to make a decision on the basis of what will happen in the future.

Does that restrain our free will?

That's up to the philosophers. I'm far too shallow a person to worry about that.' The problem with presentiment is that it appears so nebulous that you can't rely on it to make reliable decisions. That may be the case, but there are plenty of instances where people wished they had listened to their premonitions or feelings of presentiment.

One of the saddest involves the Aberfan disaster. This occurred in 1966 when a coal tip collapsed and swept through a Welsh school killing 144 people, including 116 children. It turned out that 24 people had received premonitions of the tragedy.

One involved a little girl who was killed. She told her mother shortly before she was taken to school: 'I dreamed I went to school and there was no school there. Something black had come down all over it.' So should we listen to our instincts, hunches and dreams?

Some experts believe we may already be using them in our everyday lives to a surprising degree.

Dr Jessica Utts at the University of California, who has worked for the U.S.

military and CIA as an independent auditor of its paranormal research, believes we are constantly sampling the future and using the knowledge to help us make better decisions.

'I think we're doing it all the time,' she says. 'We've looked at the data and it does seem to happen.' So perhaps the Queen in Through The Looking Glass was right: 'It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards.'
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:45 am 
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This is a reply to, "remote viewing in time", not that it really needs one.

I had a period in my life that I had visions. Some came as night dreams. some as spontanious responses. Some were the very near future. Some were for the near future and some were in a sense hypothetical, meaning, "This could happen, IF". In every one of the over 180 cases I experienced, they were very clear and to the point, no fuzzy reading had to be done, time, place, everything was spelled out.

Some of these people I knew. Some, I knew very well, others just casually, then some I didn't know at all.

In one case it was an airplane crash. My friend was going to take a short trip and I was able to varify that he was about to take that flight I saw the night before. I saw the futrue and changed what was going to happen for my friend and his friend. The section of the plane that suffered the worst damage was where my friend would always ask to be seated as he felt that the wing seats were the safest.

For some strange reason, if that wasn't strange enough, I had so many visions regarding my friend and his friend that when my friend was told that he had an advanced case of Prostrate Cancer that had already spread, he came to me for help. He didn't understand that I was only a messenger. There was nothing I could for him unless it appeared to me, an it never did.

I felt an awsome sense of responsability for the outcome of all of these visions. It worried me and I had to stand back an watch others die. I made a vocal complaint about this experience and the day I did that they stopped. Never to occur again. Oh' I still get hunches nearly every day but nothing like I did before.

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:01 am 
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Remote viewing in time is fraught with one serious problem...theoretically.....here goes....
As the theory goes, the possibility to remote view in time,is not the problem, and it gets done by even unaware people every day....the problem arises because all time is actually compressed into a single nano second called now....
This causes a time placement constraint upon the viewer.....the ability of a viewer to delineate the time that his view is occuring......
Now that may sound somewhat a formidable obstacle, but i believe there are ways to circumvent this problem to some extent in some cases,but it remains even for the well experienced RVer....
At least as far as the future is concerned..
bergle
PSI type of precognition is likewise hampered but not seemingly as greatly....why?
I am not sure,but think it has to do with the actual faculty that the operator is using...
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I agree that this is a very real problem Bergle.......you don't know if it's today or tomorrow or ten years from now.

It would be nice if there was a little calendar read out to check, but no such luck.

Time and space are not restraints for remote viewing as past, present and future events can be viewed.

We must realize that we live in a very barbaric and backward world where little is truly understood.

Take for example the case of a bomb planted somewhere and you remote view and get a strong clear message about the bomb, what kind it is and where it is located. What do you do? Alert the authorities or keep your mouth shut? Of course you alert the authorities, don't you?

Then what happens, they find the bomb and hopefully the bomb squad is not injured in the process. But how did you know about this bomb and where to find it? They have no suspects except you and you know more about it than they do. Uh oh, you had a change of heart and chickened out on blowing the place up, that's it. So on the basis of this you just became a felon, a bomber or even a terrorist. Good luck trying to talk your way out of that one having been seen in the area earlier the same day.

In the case in question no one was injured, as the bomb was set to go off late at night when no one was around, but it did considerable damage and caused quite a serious fire.

It is becoming common for the police to use remote viewers, but it is still in its infancy and has a long way to go, as not everyone is up to speed on this.

I'm glad to hear Bebop saved his friend, at least from a plane crash.

Warning individuals is one thing, warning the authorities is quite another.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:15 pm 
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We ll have to cross that bridge when and if we come to it....
The trying of the thing just as important as the success of it....
I am sure that precognitive powers played a signifigant role in Bops story,and if the truth be know,i suspect that he is already strongly precognitive...precog is under no time constraints aperantly....but well have to wait and see....
I need 5 more subjects to volunteer into the RV project....
I also need all the information on proceedure i can get..if anyone has any material?
The subject is looking more promising as i research into it.
The ability is part and parcel of our heritage....as humans!
Well lets see if we can claim back some of it....
The new multiverse needs both right and left brain thinking combined to enter it.
by the way i founda definition for an electron the other day and thought of you..ill send it along when i find it back again....
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