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[center]The Quran Foretells a Future Meeting [/center] [center]with the People of Mars[/center] [center] [/center]
There are many Quranic revelations that declare the existence of life on Mars and some other planets

[b][url "http//universeandquran.741.com/#Planets Inhabited"]The planets are inhabited[/url] [/b]
[b]The planets are earths like our Earth[/b]. [u]They contain mountains, seas, rivers, trees, gardens and other things which are present on our Earth. They include also animals and some kinds of intelligent human beings [b]who worship and serve God[/b][/u][b].[/b]

[b]1. [/b] [[b]The existence, on the planets, of [u]intelligent beings[/u] humans and demons (or genies)[/b] ]
The indication of that is His saying – be exalted – in the Quran, 30 26 [center][b](و لَهُ مَنْ في السماواتِ و الأرضِ كُلٌّ لَهُ قانِتُون [/b].)[/center]
The explanation (To Him belongs [as a slave] [b]whosoever [/b]is in the heavens and the earth. All are devoutly obedient* to Him.)
[*Exactly, it means they are inclined towards God only, and avoiding those other than Him.]
Moreover, God –be exalted –said in the Quran, 17 55 [center][b](و ربُّكَ أعلمُ بِمَنْ في السماواتِ و الأرضِ )[/b][/center]
The explanation ( [O Mohammed,] your Lord knows best about all those [b]who[/b] are in the heavens and the earth), and we have said that ‘the heavens and the earth’ means the terrestrial planets. Refer to our website [center][url "http//universeandquran.741.com/"]http//Universeandquran.741.com[/url] [/center]

[b] [/b][u]The interpretation[/u] God is All Aware of the work and deeds of all the inhabitants of the terrestrial planets and the earth, and He sent them messengers (or apostles) –out of themselves –to teach and guide them.

God –be exalted –said also in the Quran, 55 29 [center][b](يَسألُهُ مَنْ في السماواتِ و الأرضِ كلَّ يومٍ هوَ في شأنٍ .)[/b][/center]
The explanation ([b]Whosoever[/b] is in the heavens and the earth begs of Him*; every day [their begging] is in [a new] one of [their] affairs.)
[* of God – be exalted.]

[b]2. [/b][[b]The existence of [u]the plant[/u] on the planets[/b]][b] [/b]
Moreover, God –be exalted –said in the Quran, 27 25 [center][b](ألاّ يَسجُدُوا للهِ الّذي يُخرِجُ الخَبْءَ في السماواتِ و الأرضِ و يَعلمُ ما تُخفونَ و ما تُعلِنونَ ؟)[/b][/center]
The explanation (Will they not adore [and obey] God Who brings forth what [plant] is hidden [under the soil] in the heavens and the earth, and knows what [secrets] you hide and what you proclaim ?)
The ‘hidden’ means the plant because the seed is hidden under the ground, then it will come out as a plant.

[b]3. [/b][[b]The existence of [u]animals and man[/u] on the planets[/b]]
In addition, God –be exalted –said in the Quran, 42 29 [center][b](و مِنْ آياتِهِ خَلقُ السماواتِ و الأرضِ و ما بَثَّ فيهِما مِنْ دابّةٍ و هوَ على جَمعِهم[/b][b] [/b][b]إذا يَشاءُ قديرٌ .)[/b][/center]
The explanation (And of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and what He has spread abroad therein of[b] beasts[/b] [ lit. moving creatures], and He is All-Able to gather them if He wills.)
[center][url "http//universeandquran.741.com/new_page_2.htm#Meeting Between Inhabitants"]An anticipated meeting between the inhabitants of Earth and the inhabitants of some other planets[/url][/center]
Astronomers are primarily concerned today in the search for the possibility of life on other planets like Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and the other planets. They prepared everything possible for that; they planned for it, and even they designed signs and marks which they broadcasted throughout the space to find their way by them and for mutual understanding with any intelligent creature that might be existent on the other planets.
In this respect, we can assure that this will take place by God’s will. Sooner or later, the [u]humanity will one day face an exciting, and may be a fruitful, meeting between the inhabitants of Earth and the inhabitants of one [or more] of the terrestrial planets[/u]. [u]Mars may be the most anticipated planet for this event[/u], because of the information that astronomers have obtained about it, and which affirm the existence of water and other essentials of life on its surface.
To confirm my words about such anticipated meeting between the inhabitants of Earth and the inhabitants of some other planets, I refer to the word of God, in the Quran,42 29 [center][b](و مِنْ آياتِهِ خَلْقُ السماواتِ و الأرضِ و ما بَثَّ فيهِما مِنْ كلِّ دابّةٍ و هو على جَمعِهم إذا يَشاءُ قديرٌ .)[/b][b][/b][/center]
The explanation (And [one] of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and what He has spread abroad therein of beasts [lit. moving creatures]; and He is All-Able to [b]gather them[/b] if He wills.)
[u]The interpretation[/u]
--( And [one] of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth) It means Among His signs that indicate His existence is the creation of the terrestrial planets including the earth,
--( and what He has spread abroad therein of beasts [lit. moving creatures] ) i.e. the creatures [animals and human beings] that move on these planets including the Earth.
--( and He is All-Able to gather them if He wills.)
Here, there is a clear declaration about the possibility of [b]meeting between the inhabitants of some of the planets and the inhabitants of Earth[/b]. But if God –be exalted – meant by that the ‘gathering-together’ of the Judgment Day, when souls will be gathered together for judgment, then He would not mention that with (if He wills), but the Quranic revelation would come in an affirmation form, as it is noticed in many Quranic revelations concerning the gathering and congregation on the Day of the ‘gathering-together’ for Judgment then the reward or punishment;[which is inevitable.]

In addition, God –be exalted – specified this meeting with His Ability to accomplish it, and that is by saying [b]قدير[/b] i.e. (All-Able); because it is very difficult to mankind at the present time to make such a meeting without some aid for that. But nothing is difficult to God, the Glorious, the Almighty Who is All-Able to gather between the people of Earth and the inhabitants of some other planets like Mars for example, in this life of the World before the Hereafter; and that is by inspiring man the science and knowledge to achieve his justified ambition to explore the unknown in the horizons of the heavens and earth.

[url "http//universeandquran.741.com/new_page_2.htm#Traveling to Venus"]Traveling to Venus is dangerous[/url]
The volume of Venus was two-thirds that of the Earth, but later it shrunk, so that its volume became somewhat smaller. It was completing its rotation around itself in a period of 16 hours, so that its day was 8 hours, and so was its night. But [u]Venus stopped its axial rotation, and now it does not rotate around its axis[/u]; therefore, the day and night of Venus have become everlasting, and they do not succeed each other, because of the depletion of its internal heat, and because heat is the reason for the rotation of an object around itself.
The central gravitational force of Venus was keeping what living organisms were on it, just like the Earth, but it finished since the depleting of its central heat; and, actually, Venus became like our Moon, having no gravitation except that which it obtains from the sun heat, and that is in the day-side, i.e. the side which is in front of the Sun.
Venus, in the past, was inhabited; for there were human beings, animals, plant, trees and other things; but [u]the life on Venus ended because of its standstill from axial rotation[/u], and all its inhabitants died, its rivers dried up and its trees burnt; therefore, whosoever was on the day-side died from excessive heat and thirst, and whosoever was on the night-side died from excessive coldness and starvation.
If anyone goes to Venus and lands on the day-side, he will die from excessive heat; and if he lands on the night-side, he will suffer there from severe coldness and lack of food, and the Sun may draw him by its gravitation so he will die because of its rays [or heat]; that is because Venus is devoid of gravitation, and because of being near to the Sun. The traveler to Venus, then, will find towns, houses, clubs and shops, but will not see anyone dwelling therein; he will see furniture and property, but will not see any owner of them; he will see rivers but without water; and trees but they have been burnt by the Sun heat.

[url "http//universeandquran.741.com/new_page_2.htm#Traveling to Mars"]Traveling to Mars is successful[/url]
[u] Mars is larger than Earth[/u] by less than two times; it completes its rotation around itself in a period of about 44 hours. Therefore, its day is 22 hours, and so is its night, and its year equals about two of our years. [u]Mars is inhabited[/u] and contains plant, trees, animals, human beings, mountains, rivers, seas and other things. Hence, the dwelling on Mars is possible; because the traveler to Mars will find the water there available; he, too, will find ample food and much fruit, but we don’t know whether the weather, the temperature, and air-constituents there are suitable or not for the man of Earth; but we think that man can overcome these difficulties, or at least he can adapt himself to them.

[url "http//universeandquran.741.com/new_page_2.htm#Emigration to Mars"]The emigration to Mars[/url]
[u]Earth rotates around itself because of its central heat[/u], so that the day and night result from its rotation, but this heat will finish because of the eruption of volcanoes and the emergence of fire and gases to the outside, and [u]it will stop from its axial rotation[/u] as time and years pass by, just as how had Mercury and Venus stopped before.
Consequently, [u]the day and night will be everlasting[/u] and will not succeed each other, so that the heat will become very severe on the day-side; therefore, rivers will evaporate, trees will burn out, animals will perish and people will die at that time from severe heat, thirst and starvation; while those dwelling in the night-side will die from severe coldness and starvation. [u]At that time, death will be on Earth and life on Mars[/u].
God –be exalted – said in the Quran, 10 24
[b](حتّى إذا أخذَتِ الأرضُ زُخرُفَها و ازّينتْ و ظَنْ أهلُها أنّهم قادرونَ عليها أتاها أمرُنا ليلاً أو نَهاراً فَجَعَلْناها حَصيداً كَأنْ لَمْ تَغْنَ بِالأمسِ )[/b]
The explanation (Till when the earth is decked with its ornaments [of the green plant and colorful flowers] and is embellished [with much plant and fruit], and its people think they have power of disposal over it[s crops about to harvest it;] there comes to it Our order, [to destroy it], [b]by night or day[/b], and We make it stubble, as if it did not flourish only the day before.)

[b][u]Comment[/u][/b] Americans took photographs of certain areas of Mars by their space-crafts in the year 1965A.D. [and in the following years; their rover is now roaming in some desolate area of Mars], and they said that nothing appeared in the images which might indicate signs of the existence of life on Mars. I say that the camera caught part of the uninhabited desolate desert of Mars, by chance; [recently they picked images of sandstorms on Mars] and [u]did not view the inhabited region of Mars[/u], in order to transmit its picture to the Earth, but this will take place in the future.
I derived the information included in this article from a book entitled “The Universe and the Quran”, that I have translated from an Arabic book, by the late Mohmmed-Ali Hassan, the interpreter of the Quran and Bible. This book can be obtained from the website [center][url "http//universeandquran.741.com/"]http//Universeandquran.741.com[/url][/center]
The Quran, revealed in Arabic to Prophet Mohammed about 1400 years ago (when the modern scientific discoveries have not yet been achieved), expounds in many Quranic revelations that there is life on the other terrestrial planets of the solar system. These planets are earths like our earth
[center][b]Origin of Earth and the other planets[/b][/center] [center][b]according to the Quran and its interpretation[/b][/center]
The planets, together with the Earth, have a common origin; i.e. the [u]Earth did not separate from our present sun, but the planets together with Earth were one object[/u], then it was broken up into nine pieces; one of those nine was our own Earth; the other eight planets are Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and the planet of the Asteroids which was broken up. [Pluto is not a planet, but a moon of Neptune.]
[u]That initial and ancient object[/u] which was a sun ( the mother of the earth and the planets) lost its heat by time, and when its surface became cold, after the end of its life, [u]it became an earth[/u], [u]then it burst, becoming nine pieces, which started to revolve around a new sun[/u] [ the nearest sun to them our present Sun.]
Therefore, the planets are of the same kind as our Earth; their formation was simultaneous with the formation of the Earth at the same time. They contain mountains and rivers as does our Earth contain; and the Doomsday of all of them will be simultaneous, because all the planets are attracted to the Sun by gravitation, so when the life of the Sun will come to an end, it will crack –exactly as had our earth [ the previous sun] cracked before– and its terrestrial planets will be broken up altogether with it.
God –be exalted – said in the Quran, 21 30 [center][b](أوَ لَمْ يَرَ الّذينَ كَفَروا أنّ السماواتِ و الأرضَ كانتا رَتقاً فَفَتَقْناهما و جَعَلْنا مِنَ الماءِ كلّ شيءٍ حيٍّ [/b][b][/b][/center] [center][b]أفَلا يُؤمِنون[/b][b] [/b][b]؟[/b][b])[/b][/center]
The explanation (Do not those who disbelieve consider that the heavens and the earth [b]were compacted [as one mass], then We shattered them[/b], and We made –of water –every living thing ? so would they believe ? )
[The interpretation] (were compacted [as one mass] then We shattered them); here in the language of the Quran, lit. the exact words used are something like ‘sutured’ and ‘not sutured’. The explanation they were one piece, then We cracked them and tore them up into many pieces; because ‘suturing’ is opposite in meaning to ‘unsuturing’.
God –be exalted –said also in the Quran, 6 14 [center][b](قلْ أ غيرَ اللهِ أتّخِذُ وليّاً فاطِرِ السماواتِ و الأرضِ ...الخ )[/b][/center]
The explanation (Say [Mohammed, to the disbelievers], ‘Shall I take to myself as protector* [anyone], other than God, [b]the Splitter of the heavens and the earth[/b] [after being one piece]’…etc.)
[*Or Master, Manager or Guardian.]
[center][b]The discovery of intelligent beings on the planets will disprove[/b][/center] [center][b]and refute the enthusiasm about prophets and righteous men[/b][/center]
The human beings on the other planets [u]recognize and serve God[/u], Who, of necessity, has sent them, out of themselves, many prophets and apostles [or messengers]; to teach these human beings about the monotheism that God is One [as in the First Commandment], the Hereafter or the life to come, and many other subjects; but [u]they know nothing about Moses, Jesus and Mohammed;[/u] they have their own prophets and messengers or apostles.
Our prophets carried out their missions on this Earth, according to the instruction of their Lord Who sent them for this purpose. They lived, did their duties for some years then died and their souls went to Paradise in the neighborhood of their Lord. The prophets and apostles (or messengers) were some parts of a series of prophets and apostles sent by God to teach people about serving God alone according to the First Commandment which is the first of all the commandments, and about the Day of Judgment.
[b]God[/b] – be exalted – is called in Arabic [b]Allah[/b], in Hebrew [b]Yehweh[/b] or [b]Jehovah[/b], in Persian [b]Khodah[/b], and in other languages may be called by other names which are synonyms of God [b]Almighty[/b] [b]the Creator[/b] and [b]Most Gracious[/b] ; therefore, the people of the planets may call Him by other names; but He is the same Lord of all nations and worlds.
Logically, the people on the other planets do not know Hebrew, Arabic or English, and do not know our prophets and righteous men, but they have their own prophets and apostles; [u]therefore, why is all this enthusiasm about these righteous men and[/u] [u]prophets on our Earth[/u], to the extent that some people consider them the associates with God, and that the earth and heavens were created for them only, and that they are the beginning and the end, when [u]this exclusively is special for God alone[/u]? Whereas if we study the instructions of these prophets, we shall find that they glorified God their Lord, but did never glorify themselves!
It is mentioned in the Gospel according to St. Matthew, chapter 19 16-17
“16-And, behold, one came and said to him Good master, what good shall I do that I may have life everlasting?
17- Who said to him Why do you ask me concerning good? One is good, God." [King James version.]
[In the Arabic translation of the Gospel Why do you call me good? One is good, that is God.]
And in the Gospel according to St. John, chapter 13 16
“16- Amen, amen, I say to you The servant is not greater than his lord; neither is the apostle greater than He that sent him.” [King James version ] [center][b] [/b][/center] [center][b] [/b][/center] [center][b]The First Commandment [/b][/center] [center][b]is the Central Axis of All the Heavenly Religions[/b][/center]
[b]A[/b]-- It is mentioned in the [u]Book of Deuteronomy[/u], chapter 5 7-9
“7-You shall not have strange gods in my sight.
8-You shall not make to yourself a graven thing, nor the likeness of anythings, that are in heaven above, or that are in the earth beneath, or that abide in the waters under the earth."
[b] B-- [/b]It is mentioned in [u]the Gospel according to Mark[/u], chapter 12 29-30
“29-And Jesus answered him The first commandment of all is the Lord your God is one God.
30-And you shall love the Lord your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind and with your whole strength. This is the first commandment.”
And the following is in [u]the Gospel according to Mark[/u]1232
“There is One God and there is no other besides Him.”
[b] C-- [/b]God-be exalted- said [u]in the Glorious Quran[/u], 2 163
[b] [/b][b]و إلهُكم إلهٌ واحدٌ لا إلهَ إلاّ هُوَ الرحْمانُ الرّحيم[/b][b][/b]
[b] [/b]The explanation (Your God is One God; there is no god save Him, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.)
And He -be exalted- said [u]in the Glorious Quran[/u], 17 23 [b]و قضى ربّكَ ألاّ تَعبُدُوا إلاّ إيّاهُ[/b]
The explanation ( [O Mohammed] your Lord decreed, that you [people] must worship none save Him.)

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While we all appreciate varied thoughts expressed with great enthusiasm, we do not proselytize here.

We never go into a religious foreign forum, or a foreign secular one, for that matter, and proselytise religion from our side of the world.

We do, however, dscuss occasionally the ramifications of the way faith is interpreted by different sects and religions, and how it impacts the people of the world.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:09 am 
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I only display the subject. I do not change the doctrine of others, and even I cannot do that; because this is very difficult and only God Who guides and misguides people.
I have many interesting subjects that I will submit, if God pleases.
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I hope, in your faith, God gave you the freedom of choice. That's important to people thinking for themselves, and not just repeating what other people tell them is correct.

Conscience is important to all faiths and all cultures. And conscience comes from the soul and the heart.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:47 am 
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We, people, have the free choice; but prophets are propelled or directed for making people live happily.
God guides aright the one worthy of guidance; that person being good-hearted, helping people and aiding the weak, the poor, widows and the disabled, and being moderate not lofty and proud, and doing righteous work; so He give permission to His angels to inspire such person (but he is unaware) and they go on inspiring him about the monotheism: that God is One: which is the First Commandment, until he believes, and will go to Paradise in the Hereafter.
On the oher hand, the wicked who transgresses on people rights and property, the proud, who do every kind of evil work; God will leave him to the suggestions of Satan and devils; they suggest to him through whisperinf; while he is unaware; because he does not see devils, until he plunges in his sins; specially the sin of the association with God and contradicting all the commandments of God; so that he will be admitted to Fire of Hell in the Hereafter. In ohter words God guides anyone who deserves the guidance and misleads anyone who deserves the misguidance and error.
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I guess what I'm asking is ... do you take all your teachings literally? Or are you allowed to interpret according to what YOUR personal conscience tells you?

We hear lots of things today about many religions, even our own, telling people how to vote, how to shape what they think, and in many instances, how not listen to their own hearts.

I myself believe much differently than my parents - they thought all other religions were bad and all other people were going to Hell. I found that although many people believe differently, we have much more in common than we have differently. We all love, we all care about others (well, most of us, anyway), we all wish for Peace, we don't like poverty, illness, death, suffering... we basically hope for the same things, so we're more alike than many of our faiths seem to lead us to believe.

What are your thoughts? Is Islam the only religion you believe is correct, or is there room for Islam to realize that it's not necessarily the faith - but the HEART and SOUL - that make us worthy?
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The religion originally is from God; it is for the good of people; God sent the apostles (or messengers) to warn people of the association with God ( : from being opposite the first commandment) and to follow the apostles.
In the following generations, the [b]religious leaders[/b] will mislead people {this applies to all religions}; i.e. [u]if the apostle of any religious sect comes to life once again, the followers of that sect will not believe in their apostle[/u], and even they will not follow their apostle of God unless their contemporary religious leaders allow them to believe in him.
That is because all Jews, Christians, Muslims and others believe in a traditional way, imitating their parents, their people and sect. But in fact this will not avail them before God: [b]they need to renew their belief[/b], by believing in all the Heavenly Scriptures and in all the apostles (or messengers of God).
In particular [u]the First Commandment may unify all these heavenly religion followers: that is to believe in the One God.[/u]
The Quran, being the last Heavenly revealed book, and it is marvelous miracle, has to be followed as have other books: the Torah and the Gospel. And Prophet Mohammed the last apostle of God has to be followed. As God - be exalted - said in the Quran 46: 10 [center]{قُلْ أَرَأَيْتُمْ إِن كَانَ مِنْ عِندِ اللَّهِ وَكَفَرْتُم بِهِ }[/center]
The explanation: (Say [O Prophet, to them]: "Tell me your opinion: If the [Quran] be from God, and you unbelieve in it [: what will your fate be in the Hereafter, before God?] )
In addition [u]the Quran confirms the Torah and the Gospel[/u], and Prophet Mohammed believed in all the prophets of God.

Therefore, as an answer to your question about my conscience and belief, I swear by God my Lord that God is One, and that He revealed the Quran to His apostle Mohammed, and that Abraham, Moses, Jesus and all the other apostles were sent by God - be glorified.
Neither my heart, nor my conscience, has any room for any god other than God Most Gracious.
God –be exalted – said in the Quran 33: 4 [center]مَّا جَعَلَ اللَّهُ لِرَجُلٍ مِّن قَلْبَيْنِ فِي جَوْفِهِ [/center]
The explanation: (God did not make to any man two hearts within his body) It means: Man cannot love God and at the same time love other gods with Him, or believe in the monotheism and at the same time believe in other doctrines.

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