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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:51 am 
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Sorry... I just don't believe a WORD of anyone who says he/she is speaking "the Lord's Word". There is NO Lord; what most people think of as "God" is their own ego interpreting what someone else wrote down and called it "the Lord's Word." Sorry, I know I come off as a heathen, but the only God that exists is the energy that created the solar systems, the galaxies, and lives in each and every living thing. THAT'S my truth, and nothing is ever going to change my beliefs.

I guess we will have to get to where we're going after our spirits leave our bodies before we realize how badly our "religious leaders" have duped us, and used their powers and status to bilk all of us with guilt and donations.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:47 am 
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Sometimes it seems that human evolution somehow got stuck on religion, and the beliefs have remained solid for thousands of years. Nothing has changed throughout history, the heavy hand of the 'church' still rules.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:38 pm 
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Only someone ....who is totally one with this energy.....can be called Lord becouse He / she has become a master of all life.
And this man Jesus showed us that He was and still is completely one with that energy.
When will you show us .....that you are completely one with this energy?
I know that deep in your hearth is a very little spark of that same energy......but it has to grow.


Jesus and the tax collector

The son of the tax collector was raised from the dead
and made completely healty.
He had been sick for seven long years.
The tax collector asked Jesus how someting like that
could ever be possible........nobody has demonstrated
something like that ever before.
The answer that Jesus gave him:
Friend... when the human spirit is orderly awaken , he find
all kind of secrets ......and when he is awaken in the full light
he realises that he is the creator of all life.
That is the purpose and the trick to find and recognise yourself
back.
You are also living, thinking willing and you are doing like you
think and want.....but you do not know what life is....how it thinks
and wants and how it is putting all the limbs in a corresponding
active movement.
But he who has found that in himselves and realised well
is a real master of his life and a real master of the life of fellowmen.
Then he can do what I have done for your son.....yes he can do more:
See he can make himself totaly immortal.

From New Revalation J.Lorber
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:14 am 
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And you saw this yourself?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:52 am 
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Ok......we are all living temples of God.
So we have to realise our own Godly might
like Jesus did.

You must know that against one single man
who has realised this might inside.....all worldly
powers will fight in vain.





Live contra evil

Live.........where is it to be found
In the living soul its heart around

The body is only a kind of machine
No movement of the body will be seen

When the soul leaves the body...as dead has shown
Because it has no live...............of its very own

What is the opposite of ....LIVE ?
For this one...EVIL...do not strive

Worldly possesions ....they are real dead
Find real live inside yourself instead

Real live can never never die
Do all you can to find it....try

of all appearance Real live is the source
It is who we really are.......yes of course

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:01 am 
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Henk, I don't mean to seem callused and disrespectful of your faith ... but when the only proof anyone has of what Jesus said or did or knew is any book written by politically-charged leaders who sought to control the masses by telling us what they perceived Jesus said, did, and thought - 300 years AFTER his death - it raises my hackles.

We are all interconnected because we all come from the same Source. Some call that Source "God"; some call it "The Divine;" some call it "The Big Bang." One thing IS for certain.. the life/energy source which created the planets and life on Earth, and all the other life in our solar system, our galaxy, and all the other galaxies in this Universe and all the other universes and dimensions, as well, was indeed powerful; thus, we are all related to and interconnected, whether we're religious, born on Earth, or come from a different make-up of life from somewhere else. If you think of yourself as a Temple of God, fine, but be careful that you are not judging us, and holding yourself up on a higher level because of an ego fostered by a belief that your faith is the only righteous and true one.

None of us know for certain who is right and who is wrong. All we can and should do is strive to respect everyone else and treat them as we want to be respected and treated, and rely upon our inner conscience to tell us what is right and what is not.

Sometimes something that is right for me will not be right for everyone else. That's our freedom to be individuals, and our right to grow at our own pace.

But in the end, how we respect each other, and all other life with whom we come into contact - be that life animal, the land upon which we walk, the Earth upon which we live, or the air we breathe, the water we drink, the food we consume and the plants and other living species around us and around our solar system - what truly matters - regardless of whether or not we think of Jesus as the Son of God, or simply a fisherman who became enlightened and tried to teach a better way of living, we are all the same. We love, we bleed, we suffer pain, we need, we give, we take, and we must all attempt to respect everyone and everything else that makes our World one which is healthy and sustains the lives of all that which resides upon it.

Sadly, too many people do not respect others and the very living organisms and creatures who are also connected to all of us.

Yes, our souls/spirits never die. And when we leave our bodies to go on to whatever comes next, we will be judged, even if it's only by looking back upon ourselves and seeing how we walked through this world.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:42 pm 
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It is all right what you say here above Tweaked.....but only one thing I would like to
say about this books written down by Lorber.
This is a by-pass operation to rescue the truth of that what happened in those 3 years.
He heard the voice of Lord Jesus very clear inside himself .......dictating him .....and he
wrote it down on paper ....sometimes even seeing the scenes he wrote down.
I think that worldly churches do not like this truth.............this real Jesus.
They used Him for their own purposes......they keep silence .....already more than 100 years.

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Dirty, dirty, dirty old men............

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ma ... ex-scandal

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:59 pm 
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No suprises there Tim.

With the Vatican, if it's not one thing it's another.

Peace, Caper.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:01 pm 
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The return of The good Lord.... in His Word
Is the New Revelation.......did you ever heard?

For Him by Jakob Lorber His servant written down
That is already more than hundred years known

Are his servants in the churches..... that He speaks glad ?
O no not at all......o they are really feeling very very bad

They try to keep this.............. silently hidden
They have this truth for their sheep forbidden

The Lord is speaking truth without any doubt for sure
But they cannot use this........they do not like this cure

They changed a lot.................turned words around
Out of selfish interests.........they other words found

They used Your holy name o Lord.............o so very wrong
So that many folks do not want any more to hear your song

Your name is not to be found in many mouth today
Your name is not enchanting many ones ...it is not ok

An angry Father instead of a loving one ......we do not need
We like other heros.....we love James Bond and John Steed

Fear is planted in the hearts of the children.........deep inside
Who can ever change this in pure love...........who is so wise

They did never really believe that You should show up again
And they believe.......... to can go on and on with their game

When You should show up now ........ what would they do?
Disappear before our eyes.....they would surely say to You

The real Jesus ?...........................they cannot use at all
For they are in their worthyness..... one number too tall

See how it is now ....................as then in Jerusalem
No honour and love at all..............only crucify Him!

He is spoiling our very good bussiness affairs for ever
Dead is dead....we only need a dead Jesus... be clever

We will tell your lessons in our own profitable way
We do not want You here one minute longer to stay

It is like then.............all about the money and the power
That You did show up now.....is for them a cold shower

These servants fell.......... in front of the temptation
Did not reach........... the happy holy heavenstation

The reasson is that they never really believed in the Lord
And therefore they put out the light for man to say it short

But what happened then so long ago after crucifying Him
The temple was destroyed and the people dispersed

This beauty and splendour in churches .......why should it stay
When the truth of the Lord....... is kept from the faithfull away

And this servants want the honour.... alone for themselves...o that
Is for the Lord dishonour and slander................o so terrible bad

Therefore truth and honesty cannot find its ground in man's head
Though it is for our Lord His greatest wish He would be so glad

What shall He care for buildings of stone lead wood and glas
When about His return in His word is .......great silence alas

They with there slogan......... only the Bible and nothing else
Will now become confronted with the fact that they were false

The Lord shall sent new apostel with His words letting to hear
That is something what truthloving man really find so dear

Real love for God and man is becoming now natural all around
The result will be peace and unity war will be hardly found

We will find who we really deep inside are so very true
Real joy and peace and ever lasting life never never blue

But who will find in future time only trouble fight and sorrow
Those who are not honestly serving Him now and tomorrow

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