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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:32 pm 
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And the plot thickens with contaminated products coming from China.

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Despite identification of the contaminant at 12 Chinese companies, FDA officials stressed that they don't know where in the supply chain the oversulfated condroitin sulfate may have been introduced.



For anybody taking Heparin, this will be of particular interest to you. For the rest of us, it is another head-shaker in the continuing horror show of tainted goods from China.

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/HealthScout/081124/6112411AU.html

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:29 pm 
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Unless and until we REQUIRE the Chinese manufacturers to comply with appropriate standards, I feel the U.S. and other countries should BAN imports from China. And ALL imports, after a moratorium, should be tested stringently for anomalies, before the products are distributed into the consumer markets.

But given the the economic free-fall of the U.S., our abilities to test each and every lot of imported goods and medical supplies is severely limited. Our various agencies don't have the manpower or the budget to perform this kind of oversight, and since we owe China so much money, I'm not sure any administration can exercise this kind of clout.

I don't know if other countries are in debt to China, but if yours IS... your limitations may be as compromised as those of the U.S.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:29 pm 
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I think there are things that can be done.

What of the businesses who deal with Chinese manufacturers. Why can't they employ people to go to China and inspect and maintain and protect the quality of the product, before it's shipped.

It wasn't that many years ago Nike had a consumer s**t-kicking over their employ of people in sub-standard sweat shops. Public outcry changed that. (They didn't charge less for the products made with cheap labour either)

And what if malamine was used only for products that were shipped to the US. What if it were American babies sick by the thousands, you can bet your bippy somebody would answer for that, and money would have nothing to do with it.

I tend to think that unless the level of public outcry is such that it forces change, we will see more and more disasters coming out of China.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:54 pm 
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Under normal instances, Timbit, I'd agree. But corporations are losing so much money because so many people are unemployed in the U.S., they are laying OFF workers, not adding people to travel for the sake of accountability. Accountability goes "out the window" when consumer purchases and company profits are in decline.

The only way we can possibly make a difference on a personal basis is to STOP buying anything that has CHINA or TAIWAN or other Asian nations anywhere in the manufacturing labels. (Most of them import a portion of their products from China.)

For example, last year I purchased via mail order a "duster-length" jacket to go with a slacks and sweater set I found in the same catalog. (I hate malls and large stores, so I haven't gone to them in many years.) This is a company from which I've purchased clothing that really fits, for more than 10 years. The items are NOT cheap... Although I have purchased clothes only once or twice a year for many years (usually for trips or other special occasions), Each item was always close to $100USD or more. The quality was always excellent. However, much to my dismay, when the duster-length jacket arrived, it had an entirely different feel to it--kind of like paper and cloth woven together. It was still pretty, but the quality didn't seem to adequately match the $120USD price. But it said "washable" in cold water and dry via low heat, so I kept it.

Much to my dismay, after my trip I followed the instructions and washed it carefully. Instead of being "wash & wear" as listed, it shrank and wrinkled, plus the hem came loose on the left front corner. When I went to sew it before ironing it, I found a tag sewn INSIDE the hem that said: All fibers made in CHINA. Nowhere else on the garment had there been a reference to CHINA.

So, even if we can't SEE where something comes from, it may very well BE from CHINA.

I guess if we want real, American quality, we must demand and revitalize our manufacturing industry here in North America.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:02 pm 
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I remember tags on clothing that said, 'Made in the USA', 'Made in Canada', 'Union Made' etc.

What ever happened to that.

You are absolutely correct that we cannot find this information. May be in itself, more on purpose than by accident.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:05 pm 
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Oh, I don't think it's by accident, at all! And the bar codes on pricing just adds to the dilemma. Unless you know which country numbers to look for, you have no clue where the items came from.

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The first two or three digits of an EAN-13 barcode identify the country in which the manufacturer's identification code was assigned. They do not necessarily indicate the country in which the goods were manufactured. Many countries have EAN coding authorities which regulate the use of retail barcodes. For names, addresses, and telephone numbers, click here to view our list of Standards Organizations. In the United States the UPC-A and UPC-E symbologies are used for marking retail products; the administering authority is the Uniform Code Council in Dayton, Ohio (tel. 937-435-3870).

EAN•UCC Prefixes Country ISO country code
00 to 13 UCC (USA & Canada) us/ca
20 to 29 In-store numbers
30 to 37 GENCOD-EAN France fr
380 BCCI (Bulgaria) bg
383 EAN Slovenija si
385 EAN Croatia hr
387 EAN-BIH (Bosnia-Herzegovina) ba
400 to 440 CCG (Germany) de
45 + 49 Distribution Code Center DCC (Japan) jp
460 to 469 UNISCAN - EAN Russia (Russian Federation) ru
471 EAN Taiwan tw
474 EAN Estonia ee
475 EAN Latvia lv
476 EAN Azerbaijan az
477 EAN Lithuania lt
478 EAN Uzbekistan uz
479 EAN Sri Lanka lk
480 PANC (Philippines) ph
481 EAN Belarus by
482 EAN Ukraine ua
484 EAN Moldova md
485 EAN Armenia am
486 EAN Georgia ge
487 EAN Kazakhstan kz
489 HKANA (Hong-Kong) hk
50 e.centre gb
520 EAN HELLAS (Greece) gr
528 EAN Lebanon lb
529 EAN Cyprus cy
531 EAN-MAC (FYR Macedonia) mk
535 EAN Malta mt
539 EAN Ireland ie
54 EAN Belgium.Luxembourg be/lu
560 CODIPOR (Portugal) pt
569 EAN Iceland is
57 EAN Danmark dk
590 EAN Poland pl
594 EAN Romania ro
599 EAN Hungary hu
600 - 601 EAN South Africa za
608 EAN Bahrain
bh 048

609 EAN Mauritius mu
611 EAN Maroc (Morocco) ma
613 EAN Algerie (Algeria) dz
616 EAN Kenya ke
619 Tunicode (Tunisia) tn
621 EAN Syria sy
622 EAN Egypt eg
624 EAN Libya ly
625 EAN Jordan jo
626 EAN Iran ir
627 EAN Kuwait kw
628 EAN Saudi Arabia sa
629 EAN Emirates ae
64 EAN Finland fi
690 - 695 Article Numbering Centre of China - ANCC cn
70 EAN Norge (Norway) no
729 Israeli Bar Code Association - EAN Israel il
73 EAN Sweden se
740 EAN Guatemala gt
741 EAN El Salvador sv
742 EAN Honduras hn
743 EAN Nicaragua ni
744 EAN Costa Rica cr
745 EAN Panama pa
746 EAN Republica Dominicana do
750 AMECE (Mexico) mx
759 EAN Venezuela ve
76 EAN Switzerland ch
770 IAC (Colombia) co
773 EAN Uruguay uy
775 EAN Peru pe
777 EAN Bolivia bo
779 CODIGO - EAN Argentina ar
780 EAN Chile cl
784 EAN Paraguay py
786 ECOP (Ecuador) ec
789 - 790 EAN Brasil br
80 to 83 INDICOD (Italy) it
84 AECOC (Spain) es
850 Camera de Comercio de la Republica de Cuba cu
858 EAN Slovakia sk
859 EAN Czech cz
860 EAN YU (Yugoslavia) yu
867 EAN DPR Korea (North Korea) kp
869 UCCET (Turkey) tr
87 EAN Nederland nl
880 EAN Korea (South Korea) kr
885 EAN Thailand th
888 SANC (Singapore) sg
890 EAN India in
893 EAN Vietnam vn
899 EAN Indonesia id
90 - 91 EAN Austria at
93 EAN Australia au
94 EAN New Zealand nz
955 EAN Malaysia my
958 EAN Macau mo
977 Periodicals (ISSN)
978 - 979 Books (ISBN)
980 Refund receipts
981 - 982 Common currency coupons
99 Coupons

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:27 pm 
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HOLY COW!!! LOL........oh God, I'm so confused.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:25 am 
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Melamine in North American baby food.

Just how much is safe; is it unreasonable to demand a recall of these products? Why is melamine in baby formula at all.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081127/ap_ ... gYCISs0NUE

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When you consider just how many bottles of formula a baby drinks until the baby is old enough to sip from a cup... there is NO SAFE AMOUNT OF MELAMINE!!! Not ever...

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Things may be grim in China, no doubt they are, but if we were to pull the carpet up at home and have a peek at what has fallen through the cracks we would be so completely shocked and revolted that we would never be quite the same again.


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