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 Post subject: Re: Questionable Science
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:18 am 
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I remember the interview from my very first insurance adjuster job. The guy interviewing me asked, "Do you smoke? 'Cause I don't hire anyone who doesn't... they can't be trusted. We don't need any goody-two-shoes and better-than-thous gumming up the works of a well-run department..."

My, my, my how Times have Changed! :o

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 Post subject: Re: Questionable Science
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:14 am 
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Isn't this a bit strange though.......someone would phone to bitch at you. It does sound nuts and somewhat anti-social to boot.

What ever happened to; hope you are having a good day?

What is the matter with people? Life is short folks, make the most of what you have of it. Bitching and fussing over nothing is not doing yourself or anyone else any good.

The toast is a bit too brown, so what....its toast. You put some jam on it and you'll never know the difference.

Are some of us becoming victims.......because we have somehow maintained an awareness of being human.......we have not yet succumbed to viewing ourselves as remote controlled drones or a commodity (product) to be bought, sold or traded.

No one wants to talk about..........oh no, why would you want to tell me that, do you think I want to hear about something like that? What's the matter with you?

Here's one for you......when I was 8 years old I was in the boy cubs and one of our badges was for wood working........so I carved a totem pole, not a common undertaking for a white guy at the time, a small one about a foot high with wings, it had an eagle in it........I was very pleased with my effort and took it to show our cub leader.........now David, one thing a cub never does is lie.......Huh? You and I know you did not make this......you bought it in a store.........No! Well, I never did get my badge and I never lived that one down, so I did not do any more carving. Reflecting back on this childhood trend, I think to myself......it was that good wasn't it? Yup, it was magnificent.

So many in the world have been headed straight for the nut house for a long time, the neurotic tendencies have now finally blossomed into full blown psychosis. Its all delusional nonesense, which might otherwise pass for comedy, but there is nothing funny about it, its an illness like any other illness......except for one thing..........how do you cure global madness?


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 Post subject: Re: Questionable Science
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:36 pm 
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your right about the social thing .

My local town has had 4 pubs (bars) close in the last 12 months. They are taxing alcohol so much that people cant afford to have a social drink anymore...so the younger generation save their money for a big blowout on the weekend. Now there is a big thing about binge drinking, supposedly brought about by cheap beer....WHAT ? . people are drinking cheap, shop bought alcohol then going for a few drinks in the bars and getting totally wasted and thats what causes all the trouble in town centres late at night.... WHAT ?????.

The reason they are saying all this is to stop us from using our local pubs(bars), those in power dont want us to socialise anymore, they want us to sit at home, with alcohol if you want, and get brain washed by watching the TV and playing on computer games. They want us to know, what they want us to know and no more. Its easier for them than having millions of people all having an opinion and maybe influencing others with that opinion while socialising in a public house over a few drinks. Word of mouth is the best advert...but not any more, we think the best is who has the biggest and best advert on TV, Companys pay big money to those who can get into our heads and make us think of their product, because it works.

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 Post subject: Re: Questionable Science
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:38 pm 
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I remember my father-in-law saying with every new government budget, beer, cigarettes and gas are always the first to see an increase. I think that is still true today. Then they'll take a little bit away, and come election time, give it back to you. I guess it is a formula that works. We are over $1.10 a litre right now, a pack of cigarettes is over $8.00.

I know what you mean about the binge drinking, and the pre-drinking. That age group tends to do both before actually meeting up at a pub. (even though there is no seeming shortage of cash to spend). It used to be the socializing and drinking happened together, but they are already half-stupid before they even meet. So, they start off drunk, how much socializing can there possibly be starting at the middle. The entire social experience revolves around a new set of rules, and socializing takes a nose-dive. I can see age-old establishments closing, sadly. They used to be a very rich part of any community. I know from my own experience working as a bartender, people showing up sober you could get an idea of how much they've been drinking and cut them off for example (law requirement), over the period of the evening. But, you have no idea what shape people are in when they show up- that next beer could result in them leaving, causing an accident, and a law suit against the establishment for not cutting him off. Liability insurance is out the roof and balanced against lost patron income, why bother.

Conversations, maybe the art of conversation itself through socializing is going the way of the dinosaur, just like writing letters and other forms of communication. A while back I posted about a website (one of many) where little girls could 'buy' dolls and accessories, houses, furniture etc., and play with their dolls online. No physical play with other children is involved, it is all online in a virtual world. Playes can get 'points' by cleaning up their room, or taking out the garbage in the real world after a parent signs in to check off that the work was actually done. So, they are really mixing it up, and of course, all in the 'learning and teaching responsibility' mode, although we know it is just the next level of marketing to sell the physical dolls in department stores. They are of no practical use except to sit on a shelf, because 'their' world is online. I guess the TV is an outdated babysitter now, replaced by a virtual world. Remember how concerned everybody was about how much time a kid spent in front of a TV? Now it's coming around again with the time on the computer.

Isolation, self-directed activity, socializing online, overweight, and inactivity should probably not surprise anybody really. It is an interesting world we live in.

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 Post subject: Re: Questionable Science
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:29 pm 
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I heard an interesting "aside" on the news, last night. NYC now supports (no pun intended!) the heaviest people in the U.S. Since SMOKING has been banned in most places, the average robust New Yorker has gained an average of 24--44 lbs.

Clean the air; widen you butt; spend more for clothing, medical problems, and airline seats! :mrgreen: President Bush must be ecstatic!!! (spend, spend, spend!)

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 Post subject: Re: Questionable Science
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Closing places like your local pubs ruins communities, like the UK govt plan to close thousands of local post offices, another hub of the community, but they wont be closing the 4...yes 4 post offices they have at the houses of parliament...so it wont effect the MP`s

We are going to end up a nation of cabbages.....get up....go to work.....get home....veg out.....go to bed.....get up .....go to work.....Oh, I forgot about the handing over of all our money in taxes while doing so.

What are we to do ????

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 Post subject: Re: Questionable Science
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Well, historically speaking, peons and serfs in the past ROSE UP and went to war against their oppressors. But if anyone advocates that today ... we'll be subject to arrest and incarceration without representation ... as terrorists.

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 Post subject: Re: Questionable Science
PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:18 am 
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So here we are in our isolation chambers attempting to communicate through the medium of the web........while big eyes and big ears watch from their isolation chambers.

Sounds like a really bad science fiction movie....but that is our modern world.

User name.........cowbull........ditchwalker.....what happened to Robin, Robert or Rupert?

Why are we afraid for anyone to know who we are........do we know who we are? Or are we not quite ourselves....in which case we should be asking, then who are we? I'm not sure I understand the user name thing, what's the secret identity thing about?

Are we all paranoid or are we really that afraid of something we perceive as a very real danger?

If this is true why are we allowing the fear to restrain us to the point where we are willing to give up our personal identity for a pseudo name?

Never mind the price of gas, beer and smokes........what about the price of freedom.


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 Post subject: Re: Questionable Science
PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:41 pm 
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If anybody wanted to seriously find out anything about anybody, they could do it, it really is a moot point over what fake name you use, even a 'real' name may be a fake name too, it just looks real. ;) I could call myself Jane Patterson, and you could potentially find out my real name is Shorty Bigbottom.

The point being, to me at least, the average computer user is not a criminal, and it really matters not what the name is, it is what you do with an IP address to locate the user, or, as we have heard, provide personal information that can lead a predator to personal information you do not wish to share. There is always a danger there, no matter how 'safe' your softwear protection is. It's just a fact of life. As you noted David (is that your real name? lol), we are monitored, sometimes by keystroke, by those that wish to use this medium as a source, no more or less than any other source. It is cyberspying, and only an idiot would believe that it does not occur at the highest levels. (what was that about passport snooping? and the British fellow who hacked into ALL of Nasa's computer systems?)

I like my name, Timbit. It is my real name. My mother was going to call me Trixie after an exotic dancer famous in the 1920's, but the Church said it wasn't proper. My Christian name is one I use on the 'outside' because I have to. If I could protect what little privacy I think I have, I would use Timbit at the bank, with my employer, Revenue Canada, when the cops pull me over etc.

I'm not a paranoid person, I do think though, using a fake name is just a common practise among people who wish to remain anonymous, and keep our identities a little more protected from the stalkers, lurkers, and those a few taco's short a combination plate. There is truth to the fact that it does keep one a little better protected while online.

Timbit, but you can call me 'Song of Joy', and my phone number is 555-555-5555

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 Post subject: Re: Questionable Science
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Remember, Timbit, when you first came back to the forum and you asked where I was? I felt really GUILTY about that... I'd been here all the time, and the only reason I went to TWEAKED was because someone else suggested maybe, being a moderator, I should use a different name. Now I've kind of grown into TWEAKED, and since it's a reflection of who I think I really am, maybe it's not such a bad idea.

But remember when that guy from Britain was harassing me, last year? HE found out my entire real name... so he must have had access to my IP information, somehow. I've often wondered if he was a Fed, posing as someone from Great Britain. I notice, now, that the two forums he in essence "ran me out of" are no longer in existence.

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