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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:08 pm 
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Probably the aliens. They've been around for thousands of years; it's only logical to assume that they carry a lot more information than any of us do!

And maybe, just maybe, we ARE an experiment--sort of like the "biosphere" was, a few years back. Maybe that's why they don't interfere very much, and get perturbed when other groups of alien interlopers DO stick their huge heads into our world!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:03 am 
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Secret Rulers or not, we know who they are and we know they're corrupt and we know we as the little people can not do anything anyway except do as we are told and take what we're given. We can't change anything anyway no matter how loudly we protest. My daughter in law asked me once, "What's the point in knowing all this stuff if you can't do anything about it" and in this instance I agree with her.

The more I discover just how far and how much the corruption goes and is, the worse I feel about life. It makes me question my desire to live in such a world and I shouldn't be questioning that. I don't want to be suspicious of everyone and feel bitterness and powerless. The real world really sucks, I hate my human reality,

I'd rather live in my alien reality anyday. I agree that we do seem more likely to be an experiment Tweaked. It's the only thing that seems to offer answers for anything. All the different aliens experiencing all this human reality. There has to come a time when all experiments must come to an end so that conclusions can be made.

I reckon we're nearing that time and I think that is why there is such an increase in how many sightings there are. The only thing that has thrown a spanner into it is this new damn cross crop circle. I've tried everyway I can to make it fit in with the astrological crosses but I can't, it just doesn't fit. I seriously don't want it to have a religious intent unless it is to helrald the antichrist.

Then it would be a sign of things moveing along but just stuck out there it doesn't make sense to me and only goes to aid the religious movement. Have you heard any alternate views on this from a scientific perspective yet.

I'd like to know which set of aliens I belong to. I don't seem to be grey and I don't look nordic and I'm not very tall nor am I a superbrain. Except that I seem to fit in with a group of like minded souls who want peace and abhor violence especially toward animals and that I am a little sensitive to some things I'm not very special and don't stand out as belonging to any particular group. I don't even fit in with Massillas group excet that I'm open to their telepathy. I don't know where I fit in this or any other world any more. I just don't know where home is anymore and I'm lost.....Ann :P :cry:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:05 am 
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Has anyone who is NOT religious stopped long enough to consider what the anti-christ might be?

It might be someone who brings about spiritual enlightenment, and destroys all the lies the various and assorted organized religious leaders have been spewing out to us for thousands of years.

It just might be the one person who knows the Truth about what's really correct ... and is charismatic enough to make 80% of the world see the Light.

And it might ... might be an alien.

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Other than knowing the standard stuff about the antichrist being portrayed as evil I don't know that much. I might investigate it a bit because I reckon you may just be right there Tweaked. I'll look at it with different eyes this time and tell ya what I come up with......Ann :P


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:16 am 
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For YEARS I always SHUDDERED when I thought of The AITI CHRIST... and then, not very long ago (maybe a couple of years ago) I actually stopped ... and thought about what those words could mean in a different context.

Then I thought, even though the chances are that someone named Jesus really did exist, and perhaps he really was a gifted prophet ... a person who saw the need for change ... he had no way of knowing that, after his death, he'd be quoted, and MIS-quoted, and all kinds of horrors might be enacted in his name. He was, after all, part man, part alien of some sort. But nevertheless someone who never lived to see how his words and thoughts could be so claimed by others, and so twisted by those craving Power.

Even IF he were the Son of God, I doubt that he would have approved of all the sins committed against others in his name.

Anyway, then the phrase ANTI christ started taking on a whole different meaning. So I just had to toss it out to all of you, and see what all of your thoughts are.

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I believe God to be our creater, actually everything and everyones creater including ET and the Universe and is far beyond the idea of a person. I use HE only as simplicity, but I believe he is energy. In that context I do believe we are a part of him and that we are all his sons and daughters and his dogs and cats and his trees and oceans and his sky and planets etc etc.

I believe Jesus was his son the same way I am his daughter and ET is his alien. In human terms I don't believe him (Jesus) to be anything different to us. I don't believe in the immaculate conception. I think Jesus may have had some talents perhaps like that healer we saw the other day on the video.

I think he was very wise and was in our terms a bit of a genius and comprehended well. I think he tried to teach to a lot of very poor and very uneducated people who knew no better. I think he tried to instil them with hope and show them an alternative way to live without violence. I think he was a very honorable man and was prepared to stand by his convictions even to his death.

After his death for hundreds of years stories were handed down about this man. They were verbal stories and except for a few letters written about him after his death nothing he did was written down in his day. Hundreds of years later they tried to compose a book about him and his teachings and this became the New Testament.

It's filled with hand me down stories and parabels and exageations about an unusual man. A man before his time. I think Church leaders and Bible translaters took it upon themselves to decide what he was about and the life he lived. I think these translaters and church leaders were trying to help the ignorant people of that day and worded things to help the situations they faced in that time.

Beyond that I think it is just fiction. Religion was and is used to control the masses and to get people to do the leaders bidding. You're told to follow blindly because if you ever thought seriously about it you would know it was a lot of rubbish. You have to have blind faith because there is very little about religion that is bassed on reality.

That's not to say that there aren't some good things in there, there are such as the ten commandments but its just a shame we aren't told of the hundreds of others and they decided that the top ten would suffice. I resent it because I can think for myself and hate people telling me what to think and what to do and when I can. Some people may need that kind of structure even today but I'm not one of them. I belong to the church of UFOLOGY, the one true church.....Ann :P


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:22 pm 
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I have questioned religion, I was brought up by a Catholic mother, and an atheist father, and they let me make my own mind up. I went to church, though not very often, and went to sunday school to, but I wouldnt call myself truly religious.

Over the years though, I have seen and heard different stories and documentaries and read some books, and have pretty much the same ideas as you Ann, but I just have this question about the symbols of christianity.

Whenever there is a demon affecting someones life, when they are possesed, a priest is called to do an exorcism, and during the ritual, latin is usually recited, and the symbol of the cross is used to banish the demon. The demon always reacts to the symbol of the cross, now why is this, I have wondered this for quite a while. It is supposedly used by us as a symbol of jesus being crucified in this way, but he was not the only one ever that was killed in this way, it was used for years before and after.

I wonder if the cross has a deaper meaning in some way, and nothing like how we have been told, how would the symbol of how jesus was crucified have such an effect on a powerful spirit I wonder. I have never attended an exorcism, so am only going on reports of what takes place, but it has been writen many times as to what actually occurs.

Just thought I`d put this out there


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I, too, have wondered this about exorcisms. We have only the priests' word to vouch for them, and this is why I brought up the "sign of the cross meaning" earlier in the thread...

Let me tell you what made me first think about this.

Several years back, when the comet Hale-Bopp was visible to most of the northern hemisphere, there were times during the early evening when the comet looked like a cross, turned on it's side, in the early evening sky. I know the waning sunlight had something to do with the way it flared; THAT was never in question. But what it made me think, was that the Sign of the Cross may have some different meaning.

Then, not more than a couple of years ago, I took a photo of the full moon at a certain time in the night sky, and it, too, made a perfect Sign of the Cross the way my lens perceived it. This time is was standing straight up and down.

But we are babies in this Universe. Thousands of years before you and me, other must have seen the same things.

But we don't have a Universal Language that can tell us, in pictographs, what different symbols mean to various and assorted people on Earth, let alone what it might mean to inhabitants of other worlds and dimensions.

It might have just been "lore" that Constantine railroaded and used to Unite all the religions of that day when everyone had to accept the new Bible and accept Christianity.

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For all of you who usually just read our forum and don't usually post anything if one of you has any ideas or knows where to find information about the cross and it's meanings could you please let us know or give us a link to it. I for one would greatly appreciate this. Thankyou in advance.....Ann :P


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:56 am 
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Here are 2,150,000 possibilties!

It seems that from what I've read about it, it origins are not clearly established.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=his ... ross&meta=

Mind boggling that one simple cross has so much history. Views from members would be welcome as you said Ann, different religions attach different meanings to it.

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